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DermitDermit 1,815 posts Gallery: 1 photo Likes: 172 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Chandler, Arizona | Does High Speed Sync work when firing the flash in manual mode? I know it lets me set it, but it does not appear to work as I get the shadow of the shutter edge which is an obvious sign it is not doing HSS. If it does not work then why do they let you even set it? ...sorry, this is with a 580EX II 5DmkII, 5DmkIII, 5DS R, 15mm, 16-35 f/2.8 II L, 100 Macro f/2.8 L, 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, 85 f/1.8, 580EX II, 580EX, 550EX LOG IN TO REPLY |
gonzogolfgonzogolf 30,119 posts Gallery: 244 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 7328 Joined Dec 2006 | No, HSS essentially converts the flash into a series of pulses that illuminate the subject, in ettl mode. Manual flash implies you get to decide between full, 1/2, 1/4 etc power settings, but that wouldnt work as HSS seriously limits your power output. LOG IN TO REPLY |
FlyingPhotogFlyingPhotog 57,560 posts Likes: 158 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft | The Speedlite has to have full communication with the body in order for HSS to work properly. Jay LOG IN TO REPLY |
DermitDermit THREAD STARTER 1,815 posts Gallery: 1 photo Likes: 172 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Chandler, Arizona | I suspected as much. Shame on Canon for letting the user actually set HSS while in manual mode. It should not even be an option if it does not work. Just my $.02 Thanks for verifying what I suspected. 5DmkII, 5DmkIII, 5DS R, 15mm, 16-35 f/2.8 II L, 100 Macro f/2.8 L, 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, 85 f/1.8, 580EX II, 580EX, 550EX LOG IN TO REPLY |
antisomaantisoma 38 posts Joined May 2009 | Oct 27, 2009 14:40 as a reply to @Dermit's post | #5 LOG IN TO REPLY |
Curtis NCurtis N 19,129 posts Likes: 10 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Northern Illinois, US | Dermit wrote in post #8905123 Shame on Canon for letting the user actually set HSS while in manual mode. It should not even be an option if it does not work. It does work, as long as your flash is on your hotshoe, or connected with a OC-E3 or other compatible TTL cord, or fired via Canon's wireless flash system. 'If you're not having fun, your pictures will reflect that.' - Joe McNally LOG IN TO REPLY |
FlyingPhotogFlyingPhotog 57,560 posts Likes: 158 Joined May 2007 Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft | Curtis N wrote in post #8905702 It does work, as long as your flash is on your hotshoe, or connected with a OC-E3 or other compatible TTL cord, or fired via Canon's wireless flash system. With HSS, the flash needs begin firing when the first curtain starts to open. PC cords and traditional radio systems do not provide this communication. Good Point... Jay LOG IN TO REPLY |
apersson850apersson850 12,246 posts Gallery: 10 photos Likes: 393 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Traryd, Sweden | Oct 27, 2009 16:07 as a reply to @antisoma's post | #8 But it does work. I thougth it would, but I wasn't sure, so I just went and tried it with a 580 EX II on a 40D. No problem at all. But just as with E-TTL, range is limited. Anders LOG IN TO REPLY |
DermitDermit THREAD STARTER 1,815 posts Gallery: 1 photo Likes: 172 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Chandler, Arizona | Curtis N wrote in post #8905702 It does work, as long as your flash is on your hotshoe, or connected with a OC-E3 or other compatible TTL cord, or fired via Canon's wireless flash system. With HSS, the flash needs to begin firing when the first curtain starts to open. PC cords and traditional radio systems do not provide the communication to make that happen.
5DmkII, 5DmkIII, 5DS R, 15mm, 16-35 f/2.8 II L, 100 Macro f/2.8 L, 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, 85 f/1.8, 580EX II, 580EX, 550EX LOG IN TO REPLY |
andyloandylo 292 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jan 2010 | Sorry for digging up an old thread but.... Andy LOG IN TO REPLY |
CliveyBoyCliveyBoy 3,272 posts Likes: 42 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Tauranga, NZ | andylo wrote in post #10477995 I just want to confirm what I am reading is correct: to allows HSS works, the flash light (580EX2) will have to connect to the camera in some mean (on hotshoe, OC-E3, radiopopper, pocketwizard etc). And the flash can set to either ETTL mode, and/or Manual mode -- as long as connection between camera and Flash. Yes and yes, but 'some means' does not include e.g. a PC-sync cord or a simple radio trigger. Only some PWs will handle it. You can now add Pixel Knight radio triggers to the list of HSS-capable triggers. Clive, and Great G/D Abbie LOG IN TO REPLY |
pinoyplayapinoyplaya 948 posts Joined Mar 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN | I actually like that Canon added the HSS option. It allows me to have shutter speeds above the normal HSS (350+) flickrCanon EOS 1D Mark III & WTB Canon 6D LOG IN TO REPLY |
hhidajathhidajat 100 posts Joined Aug 2009 | will this guy make HSS work? FlyingPhotog wrote in post #8905107 The Speedlite has to have full communication with the body in order for HSS to work properly. Your Choices for HSS are: - On Camera - Off Camera But With A Cord (Hotshoe Extension) - Off Camera Radio Poppers - Off Camera Flex TT / PW Minis LOG IN TO REPLY |
msowsunmsowsun 9,282 posts Gallery: 18 photos Best ofs: 1 Likes: 382 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Oakville Ont. Canada | hhidajat wrote in post #10516976 will this guy make HSS work? http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31oYIMOgPWL.jpg
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bigVinniebigVinnie 835 posts Gallery: 3 photos Likes: 101 Joined Jul 2010 Location: Roaming the USA | It works very well. LOG IN TO REPLY |
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A Little About Exposure: Exposure is the amount of light a digital camera's sensor captures when a photo is taken. Too much light results in a washed out photo (overexposed). Too little light and the photo will be too dark (underexposed). A camera's Aperture, Shutter Speed and ISO settings directly affect exposure, but more importantly, they allow you to control how each photo will look.
Aperture - Control the amount of blur or sharpness around your subject.
What it is and what it does: The aperture setting controls the size of the lens opening that allows light into your camera.You can blur the foreground and background that bracket your subject (known as shallow depth of field) by opening up the aperture with a low f-stop number; alternatively, you can keep your photo sharp from the foreground through to the background (known as wide depth of field) by closing the aperture down with a high f-stop number.
Aperture:f/2.8
Foreground and background blur make the subject stand out. Great for portraits.
Aperture:f/22
The subject, foreground and background are sharp. Perfect for landscape shots.
Shutter Speed - Show the movement of a fast moving subject or freeze it in action.
What it is and what it does: The only thing between the light that has passed through the Aperture and the image sensor is a shutter. The Shutter Speed setting controls how long the shutter opens to expose the image sensor to that light. Open it for just a millisecond and you can freeze a fast moving subject. Alternatively, you can show the movement of a fast moving subject by keeping it open longer with a slow shutter speed.
Shutter Speed:1/250 sec
The movement of the propellor has been captured with a ghosting effect. Great for stunning images of streams and waterfalls.
Shutter Speed:1/4000 sec
Even though its moving the propellor looks frozen. Perfect for sports action shots.
ISO - Sense the right amount of light for the visual effect you want.
What it is and what it does: With the ISO setting a camera's image sensor can be adjusted to detect more, or less light as needed for a good exposure. On a bright sunny day too much light hitting the sensor can cause an overexposure so make it less sensitive with a low ISO number. If your shooting conditions are dark the sensor needs to detect more light so increase its sensitivity with a higher ISO. High ISO will cause grainyness so as a rule use the lowest ISO possible. The photo effects you want to achieve with the aperture and shutter speed will impact the amount of light reaching the sensor, so use the ISO to adjust its sensitivity and get a good exposure.
ISO:100
Shooting indoors with a low ISO means you will need more light to reach the sensor. Get more light to the sensor by opening your aperture and/or slowing your shutter speed. Low ISO is ideal for shots under bright sunlight.
ISO:25,600
Shooting indoors with such a high ISO means you will need less light to reach the sensor. Reduce the amount of light reaching the sensor by narrowing your aperture and/or using a fast shutter speed. High ISO is ideal for night photography.
Exposure Meter- Sanity check your settings.
What it is and what it does: The Exposure Meter is your final check before you snap a shot. At a glance it tells you how your exposure will turn out based on the Aperture, Shutter Speed and ISO settings. A well exposed shot lines up right down the centre at zero. An underexposed shot (too little light) falls left of centre and an overexposed shot (too much light) falls right of centre. Use the Exposure Meter as a guide only, exposure is a matter of personal preference so don't be affraid to wander off of zero.
Underexposed: -3
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Overexposed: +3
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